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The End of an Auto
Lease
by Gary Foreman
Dear Dollar Stretcher,
I am currently in my last year of a four
year lease on a '98 Ford Windstar. We are
probably going to end up purchasing the van
at the end of the lease because we are way
over on our allotted miles. We have a
pre-determined purchase price of almost
$14,000. I have heard that these are
negotiable at the end of the lease. Is this
true? Why would they negotiate with me when
they know that I am "stuck" with
the pre-determined price? How does one go
about negotiating the purchase price at the
end of the lease? I obviously would not tell
them I am over on my miles unless it became
an issue. Any suggestions? I like the van
but would like to get it for less. The
estimated trade in value is $9,560. Thanks
for your help. Kelli
Kelli is at the most interesting time in an
auto lease - the end. And her case is
complicated because of the excess mileage.
Most leases charge between 10 and 25 cents
per mile over a standard allotment. Dealers
like to manipulate how many miles are
allowed. They can easily lower the monthly
lease fee by allowing fewer miles in the
contract. And, most people only think about
the lower payment. Not the restriction on
mileage. At least until they get to the end
of the lease. Kelli can find out how much
she'll pay for the mileage by checking her
lease agreement. It will specify the mileage
allowed and the cost per mile over the
allowance.
She'll pay for the excess miles in one of
two ways. She'll either write a check when
she turns in the van or she'll pay more for
the van than it's actually worth.
Not telling them about the extra miles isn't
an option. Not only are they going to check
the odometer, they'll also check for dents,
scratches and any wear that can be deemed
'excessive'. And Kelli will pay for that,
too. So the first thing for Kelli to
recognize is that she will pay for the
mileage. Those miles might cost her less if
she buys the van, but she'll still pay.
Next Kelli needs to get an idea of how much
less her van is worth because of the
mileage. We don't know how many miles the
van has. She just said that they were
"way over" the limit. The average
car gets driven about 12,000 miles per year.
We went to the KellyBlueBook.com site to get
some pricing for a 1998 Windstar. Retail on
a typically equipped van with 48,000 miles
is listed at $13,530.
How much difference can the extra mileage
make? Again, according to KelleyBlueBook.com,
a 1998 Windstar with 70,000 miles is worth
$1,475 less than one with only 48,000 miles.
That's more than a 10% price difference.
OK, so what are Kelli's options? She has
two. First, she can write a check for the
excess mileage and then buy a different car
or mini-van. Her total cost will be the
mileage penalty at the first dealer plus the
cost of the replacement.
The other option is to negotiate with her
dealer to buy the Windstar. Again, her cost
will be the mileage penalty plus whatever
price she can get on the Windstar. It's
possible that the dealer could waive the
mileage charge if she buys the van. But that
will mean that the dealer will need to get
more for the van.
Negotiating is easy. Just tell the dealer
that you want a lower price. They may lower
the price or ask you to make an offer.
Why would they negotiate when a price is
set? First, because the lease buyout price
is only a commitment from the dealer to
offer it at that price. The dealer is
"stuck" with that price. She
isn't. She's free to buy it at that price,
negotiate a better price if she can or not
buy the van at all.
Second, because they know that the Windstar
isn't worth $14,000. Remember, this is a
high mileage car. The dealer's goal is to
make the most they can on the van. They'll
start with the mileage charge. Then they'll
add the best price they can get from Kelli
or another buyer.
An important price for Kelli to know is what
she would pay for another vehicle with
similar equipment and mileage. She should
shop around to get a good idea of what that
price is before she goes in to talk with the
dealer.
Kelli can forget about trade-in prices. They
aren't relevant here. "Trade-in"
is what you'd get if you were selling to the
dealer. Kelli doesn't own the van, so she
can't sell it.
Is it a good idea to buy the Windstar? One
advantage to buying it is that she knows
what's wrong. Presumably it was well cared
for and that often makes a difference when a
car gets past three or four years old.
Of course the disadvantage to buying the
Windstar is that it's a high mileage
vehicle. And that could mean that things are
about to wear out. Whatever Kelli decides,
we hope that she gets a safe, dependable,
reasonably priced vehicle for her family.
Gary Foreman is a former purchasing
manager who currently edits The Dollar
Stretcher website www.stretcher.com.
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